It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. The backpack being found with all its contents including money and not even dirty let alone wet after weeks of constant rain-found a day after the area was checked. The same thing happened to the taxidriver who drove Kris and Lisanne to the forest. The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? Tourism in Panama - Wikipedia Hi Marie, Theres no evidence that points to the dog being with them. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. She is looking down to the left and appears to be shocked by what she sees. Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. But in the last year, several mass graves have been unearthed, revealing to the world a dark practice of human sacrifice which is thriving in the jungles of Panama. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. The blue item could be anything, but shows someone has been there before. Sometimes I refer back to the Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, the two girls that made international headlines in 2014 when they disappeared in the northwest region of Panama. More info here. Here is the comparison: Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. This! https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. Also, the parents did not release all the images. I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. Rights of initiation? So why did they go on a trip on April 1st? RIP sweet girls. Their story captivated me for some reason. What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. And if there would be any clue in them that the girls were hurt intentionally, the parents would not stop being vocal about it. Theres a red cord tied around her waist that wasnt on her in any of the other photos. This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. Froons bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally, but Kremerss bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in their deaths. But they are hurt and they are lost. Has anyone thought to look further into the hosts dog (Blue)? One of them probably fell got hurt, a local found them said they would help and well they didnt help they killed them and dumped in River knowing the river would remove any evidence. They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. Hello and thank you for doing such a thorough research. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. Where did u see that picture ? Europe is the world . Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. There are shots of them exploring the jungle on April 1 which appear to show that all is well. It looks as if there is a guy standing off the edge in the tunnel. He walked the trail with Ks parents, a sweet friendly lovely dog companion with big wise blue eyes, he is prominent in the video made by Ks parents as they walked the trail. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. It looks as though she has a mouse under her right eye. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. 9.3 million tourists visited Australia in 2019 (year ending June 2019). The first all the black area behind her was blackened and smudged. I never noticed this before Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? I think it would be nice for a botanist to take a look at the vegetation. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. Be careful. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. If you find more info about this, please feel free to share it. Why no more fotos were taken after 508 on the 1st until the nighttime session on the 7/8th? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JheETl6Obg. Dutch investigators attempted to recover the file but didnt manage to retrieve any data, which suggests that the camera was plugged into a computer and the file was deleted rather than deleted from the camera. Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! March 3, 2023, 7:57 AM. I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. Thats why Kris stops in photos once in a while as if to say this way, right?. What is clear is that on that fateful day the girls went out for a short hike and never came back. Most fingers seem to point to the Panama authorities, who have also been blamed for a poor initial search in the immediate days after the disappearance. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. and then found by someone and then the real nightmare started. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. Maybe a struggle or fall? Vittorio Caruso. They were not lost. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. Was the reception that bad in those locations? Hi Chris, and thank you for your nice comments! Snoeren and West believe that flash floods, which are typical to that area, would make strategically placing items impossible. Did they become lostand fall down a cliff? Read Matts article about the daytime photos (link) for more detailed information. This was incredibly naive but then they only just arrived.. What took them past the divide? The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? Photoshopping is not hard to do nor is it very tactical as many have proposed here. Patients often tell our staff about finding the corpses of people who have suffered fatal falls or drowned in swollen rivers. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. Like jaguar? So sad what happened to them today is the first Ive heard of the story and its wildly upsetting. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. Also, sometimes the investigations go dead because the government wants the story to go away in order for the tourist trade to not be hurt. Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. No replies are deleted except in rare cases of spam, inappropriate language/links, or disrespect to another contributor. One obvious question - has anybody ever found the place that is in this photograph. In reality, foreigners are usually not the target of gangs. They do nothing to further discourse surrounding this tragedy and only attract people who think its fun to join in with conspiracies about the deaths of these two very real girls with very real families (who are suffering tremendous heartbreak). For the most part, foreigners are just caught in the middle. I want to come!! Theres a lot more information needed to make conclusions. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. Someone mentioned a Jaguar? The plane was located with the help of Bruce's Legacy, as well as a local family whose boats were used in the mission, Lewitinn said. The problem with the links you are providing is not that the links themselves are necessarily unsafe (they could be, but we wont test them)the problem is that ALL of your links require users to download some form of content. thank you for sharing this. Such a tragedy. While I do believe eventually, and possibly soon after this, there was foul play, I dont think anything untoward was happening as of this photo. Most dog owners here do not use a leash when walking their dogs. The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul In reality, I dont think someone would go to this extent. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . Cheers, Reg. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. A path looks different anyway when you walk back the other way so they would not be aware they were not heading the right way and carried on. It will be interesting to see where the photos were actually taken. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall,or suffer other fatalaccidents while traveling-this could've happened to these women as well. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? How many tourists go to Australia? Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. In the picture of her in the Cave? It seems likely it was tribal. I really feel that this place is the key to what happened to the girls. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. . However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. Being disoriented, and losing a companion, hunger, asthma. But after they waved goodbye to the local family for a mid-morning walk on April 1, 2014, they were never seen alive again. I would prefer to stay anonymous and off the website, so you have permission to use my email. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. Her phone is dead. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. Fortunately, theres a lot of work still underway from private investigators and researchers. IF there was a dog with them why then did they not photograph it? Also important is who they met because two tall and very attractive new arrivals would certainly get all the boys tongues wagging. So easily noticeable. For other inquiries, Contact Us. That is EXACTLY what it looks like to me! Ironically enough, several of those men were also murdered shortly after. Both of their phones finally ran out of battery by April 11 - ten days after they disappeared. No chance. The night time photos are not relevant but the result of someone playing with the camera. However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. I think this was a setup for the 2 girls from the beginning. Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. Small-town America no more? Tourism gains have made Panama City Beach And her shirt is pushed up. He has collected much that is out there but still the majority is second hand and we have no information as to the voracity. The grimace on Kris face is because she is in pain. The students from Amersfoort in the Netherlands had spent six months planning their dream trip to Panama, hoping to spend some time backpacking, volunteering and learning Spanish. Take care. Froon had a Canon Powershot SX270 HS which contained numerous photos, many of which were of the period of time leading up to the day of the girls disappearance. If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist. Really sad story, whichever way you look. Shes been beaten into submission. There appears to be a visible roof-like structure above Kriss head. No dog. I think this has been added to hide the fact that Kris was not wearing boots, as this was a shot of her from somewhere else and superimposed on the jungle scene. I find it really creepy, but maybe Im looking at it wrong due to shadows and light. Tourists Killed in Mexico Is it Safe to Go Now? - Yahoo! Rest fell off of the one hour bridge in Bastrop brains and on the rocks below some photos show her dead body laying down there. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. Out of respect for the girls families, I think that comments like this, which I argue turn this case into some sort of entertaining Netflix series, should be removed. I have no idea. But then Im immediately confronted with conflicting evidence to suggest otherwise. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. Easily done, I have done that myself several times. Was it taken on the afternoon of April 1st before their first distress call? However, one particular group of indigenous people were discovered (updated, old link) in January 2020 to be capturing people, torturing them and offering them as human sacrifices. Btw, phones will connect to emergency services with or without sim card being present. Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. Estou certa que no foi Lisanne que a tirou. Thanks for your comment. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. These were standard vacation photos that two young women would take while traveling. Hi Lisa, I wrote an in-depth analysis of Kriss bones here: The government officials involved failed at providing a thorough analysis/evaluation. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. He even found pictures of the suspect and a local model wearing Kriss blue shirt right after the disappearance. Im always looking for answers. I think investigation isnt the correct word. If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. I do see the supports and I think thats manmade also. In India's Parvati Valley, dozens of male tourists have gone missing Still creepy though. Nice investigation. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. Packed up the bag, left it, and tried to walk out. My question is: Who has the ability to manipulate both the cameras internal storage database and the photos? A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. After investigating further, I discovered this article from the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/cult-anointed-by-god-kills-7-in-panama-jungle, The LA Times article states The sect arose after a villager returned to the community several months ago following a stint abroad, bringing back unusual religious beliefs with him.. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. OK I see the conspiracy theorists saying someone else had their phones but who else would know to try 112 which is the common emergency number for EU countries? I think that she has her hand to her ear,she looks like she is trying to hear what someone is saying,and also,the light is in her eyes;.It looks like she has twisted herself around in doing so. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found. The lower orange being around the belly area. ), podran darnos explicaciones de la posicin del cuerpo, de las manos y la expresin del rostro en la foto 506. And I cannot fathom standing this way, hands behind the back and turned like that unless my hands were restricted behind my back. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. Their families went to the police to. This is speculation. Again, these are just observations. Rarely are foreigners targeted for a reason other than pure opportunity. The causes of Kremerss and Froons tragic death have never been determined and the two bodies that were recovered have not even been conclusively found to be either of the girls. Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? Regarding the existing photos its a big mess. Or maybe the girls were using the flash as light in the dark. Yes, I think its the entrance to a short cave. Lets try one more time then (and please dont censor this, even if you think that it is not pretty murders rarely are! Rainfall probably washed the bag into the water. I wanted to share this article from a big newspaper in Panama. Theycalled 112, the emergency number for the Netherlands, as well as Panama's emergency number, 911. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. U.S. Travel Ban: This Is How It's Costing Europe Billions Most novices wouldnt know how to properly handle something like this, so it was probably someone experienced with computers. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? 90% take place right here in the US in state parks. Weird. But so much of this search/investigation was poorly executed. The group of 13 youngsters - nine from Coln province and four who were visiting from Panama City - left on Friday morning to go swimming in Gatn Lake. If someone died, you would certainly write, Body can be found at xyz.. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . . Perhaps the girls were lured there and that is where they met their horrible fate. Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. Lisanne believes her dead. Hi Kevin, Occums razor only applies when all facts are available. Totally agree, Alexis. This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. Who did the manipulation of course is a mystery but it points to being a corroboration of the police narrative that they got lost. I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). It actually came as a surprise to us too, but our conclusion had to be that it was an accident. Can anybody see that? There are flaws in the manipulations, such as the photo timeline, the inconsistent resolutions, the missing photo (or video), the red lines on the shirt, incorrect shadow positioning, etc. There has recently been something in the news about it. While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. But, Who took the photos on later dates? Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. Looks like some of sort of indigenous artifact/trail marker. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. The alarm was initially raised about the disappearance of the girls after they missed a private walking tour of Boquete on April 2. Obviously she did the first several times, but as the battery got lower, she likely got more conscious of the idea of conserving it. I also think that we are looking at man-made roof structure, but its not the last photo, right? Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). What you are seeing is simply from the pattern of the foliage and shadows and light patterns impacting on the image. You can even see the smudges or blurring on the bottom of the plants into the dark areas in an attempt to blend the darkness area (where something or someone was likely standing). incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. Keep in mind, these are my observations Ive made since moving from the USA. . Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. If you have any supplementary information regarding the case, or if you were involved in this case and feel that the information available in this article impacts your privacy, please contact our team. Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. Ive removed their comment and blocked them from reposting. You can even see clear rods in the red areas towards the top going straight through. If it is a photo-op, why is Kris not waving her hands or something. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. Photo 509 was removed first. I previously read that online, although it was a while ago and I cant remember where I read that. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Search parties are looking for her. If the culprit is not brought to book, the rest of the world says it is to protect the tourist industry. No sir, just ordinary incompetence. Like the taxidriver and the two local boys. Theymade numerous emergency calls afew hours into their hike; logs show they managed to connect only oncedue to poor reception in the forest. Not everything is a complex conspiracy, people. Thanks un advance, Lyn Carmichael. But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. why couldnt they just destroy the phone all together, break it beyond repair and leave it in the backpack. Everyone is already aware that there are many unfortunate possibilities of what could have happened to Kris and Lisanne. Its thought that Kremers and Froon were exploring nature without anyone else around. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. They usually drown their victims, hit and run car accidents, or just disappear the victim, etc anything that ensures theres no obvious intent to the police. God only knows how many people theyve done this to in the last decade. Out of the dozens of calls, only one managed to connect, but broke up after just two seconds due to the lack of reception.
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